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Wednesday, I played a 35pt version of my eventual 50pt Vayl2 Hardcore list.

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Vayl, Consul of Everblight (*6pts)
* Harrier (2pts)
* Harrier (2pts)
* Angelius (8pts)
* Ravagore (9pts)
* Scythean (8pts)
Blighted Nyss Legionnaires (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
Spawning Vessel (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
1 Spell Martyr (1pts)

My opponent, Paul, threw Kraye and a Stormwall at me.  It also looks like he was a point over, but we won’t hold that against him.

Captain Jeremiah Kraye (*6pts)
* Hunter (6pts)
* Centurion (9pts)
* Stormwall (19pts)
Rangers (5pts)
Journeyman Warcaster (3pts)

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I know this is coming out late in the day, but since it’s still Tuesday, I figure it still counts.  So there.

One of the things I did for the Titan Exchange was a Hunter for friend Northblade, of Hobby Hysteria.

I knew I wanted to do freehand on that nice clean top of the hunter, and a Cygnus was as good a thing as anything else.  The stock scheme uses yellow for the Cygnus symbol, and I know from experience that yellows are terribly transparent, and would have a ell of a time covering the rich, deep blues I was going to use.  So, the yellow needed to come first.

The Cygnus

The Cygnus

This meant that I would need to paint the Cygnus using negative space – ie, painting all the stuff that was not the Cygnus.

I figured I should practice this first, so I got out a pencil and a sheet of paper along with my Forces of: Cygnar book as a reference.  The sketch wasn’t going to be the proper scale, I just wanted to work out how to construct the Cygnus backwards – without getting any paint or pencil marks “inside the lines”.

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So, I’m not going to make the Khador deadline I had set for Templecon 2014.  I think it was a relatively unrealistic to begin with, and I’m currently focused on the Titan’s Exchange models, which are more important.  At this point, I’ve accepted the fact that whatever I get done for my Khador before Templecon is just a bonus.  The Exchange models should be done by the end of the week, so If I can, I’m going to try and finish off the Winterguard unit for the full deathstar.  We’ll see what happens.

Anyway, as I work on finishing up these exchange models and aiming for the last 6 models I need for the full deathstar, I want to pick your collective brains over what I’ll be working on after Templecon.

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Our journeyman league is kicking off early this year, so I need to figure out just what I’m going to do. We’re running it a little differently than usual.  Each player pledges a 50-pt army and paints that to completion, rather than painting as much as possible and feeling completely swamped.

I’ve been collecting ideas for armies for a while now, and I’m looking at this opportunity as a chance to finally take one of these and see them through to completion.  The problem is, there are so many great ones to pick from!

Baldur1, Rock of Orboros Tier 4

72045_WoldGuardian_WEBBaldur the Stonecleaver (*6pts)
* Woldwatcher (5pts)
* Woldwatcher (5pts)
* Megalith (10pts)
* Woldguardian (8pts)
* Woldwarden (8pts)
Sentry Stone (Leader and 3 Manikins) (3pts)
Sentry Stone (Leader and 3 Manikins) (3pts)
Shifting Stones (2pts)
Shifting Stones (2pts)
Stoneward and 5 Woldstalkers (5pts)
Stoneward and 5 Woldstalkers (5pts)

This list has been a long time coming.  I already own all of it, most was a gift to myself after all the work I put into the first NOVA Open.  It’s a fun, tanky list that puts the opponent between a rock and a hard place.  It’s also a paint scheme that can be done with an airbrush for the most part, but has lots of nutty details that could be a pain under such a tight time schedule.

Kreoss Pop ‘n’ Drop

32026_DelivererSunburstCrew_WEBHigh Exemplar Kreoss (*5pts)
* Redeemer (6pts)
* Fire of Salvation (9pts)
* Reckoner (8pts)
* Vanquisher (8pts)
* Hierophant (2pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts)
Deliverer Sunburst Crew (Leader and 2 Grunts) (3pts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer (2pts)
Paladin of the Order of the Wall (2pts)
The Covenant of Menoth (2pts)
Vassal of Menoth (2pts)

This list is another super fun list, it’s all about capitalizing on Kreoss’ feat.  There’s a ton of ranged firepower, all the classic Protectorate pieces, and all the stuff I really want to paint.  Like the Paladin.  Don’t judge me.  I’m also interested in seeing the look on people’s faces when the Sunburst Crew hits the table.

Nemo3’s Lightning Battery

31093_Nemo_FinchWEBArtificer General Nemo (*3pts)
* Storm Chaser Adept Caitlin Finch
* Lancer (6pts)
* Sentinel (4pts)
* Stormclad (10pts)
Storm Strider (9pts)
Silver Line Stormguard (Leader and 9 Grunts) (9pts)
Stormblade Infantry (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
* Stormblade Infantry Officer & Standard (3pts)
* 3 Stormblade Infantry Storm Gunner (3pts)
Stormblade Captain (2pts)
Stormblade Captain (2pts)

This list is pure zappy goodness.  I’ll finally get to paint my Stormclad conversion, along with nearly every Storm Knight model I own.  That’s a lot of work, but there it is.  I think this list would be incredibly fun to play, but I am not looking forward to painting it.

Vayl2, Machinations of Shadow Tier 4

73008_CarniveanClassic_WEBVayl, Consul of Everblight (*6pts)
* Harrier (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Angelius (8pts)
* Angelius (8pts)
* Carnivean (10pts)
* Ravagore (9pts)
Blackfrost Shard (5pts)
Blighted Nyss Legionnaires (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
Spawning Vessel (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Succubus (2pts)

Vayl2 is the new hotness, and her theme list combines everything I love about this game: big nasty beasts and lots of spell-slingin’.  I also love a good tar-pit, and the Legionnaires and Spawning Vessel do that in spades.  The best part about this list is that I get to revisit the Aquablight theme.

Charge of the Battlemittens!

35012_HouseShyeelBattleMages_WEBAdeptis Rahn Shyeel (*6pts)
* Discordia (10pts)
* Phoenix (10pts)
* Phoenix (10pts)
House Shyeel Battle Mages (5pts)
House Shyeel Battle Mages (5pts)
Houseguard Halberdiers (Full Unit) (7pts)
* Halberdiers Officer & Standard (2pts)
Arcanist (0pts)
Arcanist (1pts)
House Shyeel Magister (2pts)
House Shyeel Magister (2pts)
House Shyeel Magister (2pts)

This is one I’ve had on the shelf for a long time.  I’ve had plans to do this in a TRON style theme, for a long time, including potential scratch-built bikes for Destor Thanes.  This is an extension of the 35pt version which drops a Phoenix and a unit of Mittens.  I could put in three Mittens units for four total and hit T4, but that’s a lot of Mittens that’ll probably never see the table top afterwards.

Harkevich’s Assault & Battery

33036_BehemothWEB (1)Kommander Harkevich, the Iron Wolf (*5pts)
* Behemoth (13pts)
* Black Ivan (10pts)
* Destroyer (9pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Greylord Outriders (Full Unit) (9pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Full Unit) (6pts)
* WGI Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Rocketeers (3pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)

This would utilize a few models I already have painted, but would let me build my Extremoth.  All the parts are here, I just haven’t had a good enough excuse to build it and see it through.  One of the big advantages to this list is that there would be very few models to paint, albeit Large based ones.

So, which should it be?

There’s a Poll up top, on the left hand side.  Please vote!

If you have comments about the lists, leave them below!

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Here’s the current state of my Cygnar collection, as we go into the Journeyman tomorrow:

Stryker 1, Squire, Centurion, Hunter, Ol’ Rowdy and Sword Knights (6) are all mostly done Black 13th and Reinholdt are done, but need to be sealed.

The oil wash I tried didn’t turn out as well as I’d hoped, which is why the models look dirty.  I needed a better gloss coat, and the clean up Q-tips like to get caught on the rivets, so the models ended up a little fuzzy in some places as the cotton got pulled apart.

As much as I want to re-do these, this is how we learn.

To Dos: Highlight metallics (after sealing), clean up the too-dirty whites, and glowy bits.

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We have a Journeyman League starting up in a few weeks, and the first tier is a 15pt Highlander army.  For those unfamiliar with the format, it requires an army to have one unit, one solo, a warcaster and then you can fill with Warjacks/ Warbeasts, but they’re all FA:1, so no duplicates (like twin Hunters or Berserkers).

It’s a great way to start off a Journeyman league, since it forces participants to have a unit and solo painted, and with the 15 pt restriction, it also usually comes down to a Heavy and a Light Warjack.  Overall, it’s a nice, rounded format.

As I bet you can tell, I’m focused on Cygnar at the moment, so I’m looking at what I want to do.  Painted models must be used, but they can be painted at any time.  Only models painted since Jan 1, 2013 count for painting points, though, so right now, only the Black 13th and Reinholdt count for me.

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As tempting as it is to use them, I don’t have a great way to protect them in such a small army.  They really want a cloud to stay in, so Swamp Gobbers are a great 1 pt attachment for them, being able to drop a 5″ cloud to hide inside (and provide Stealth, since they all have Prowl).  Unfortunately, being a unit, I can’t use them and the Black 13th.  Gorman would work, though, but putting him and the Black 13th out there would just be far too juicy of a target.

So, I’m entertaining the idea of running a different unit, despite the fact I’ll have to paint it.  Before I get into that, though, let me discuss the warcaster I’ll be taking.  I’m 100% set on using Commander Coleman Stryker (stryker1).  He’s my favorite Cygnar warcaster, and brings a lot to the table.  Snipe, Blur and Arcane Shield are all great, his Earthquake provides an answer to many tough situations, and his feat lets me ignore the enemy’s attacks for one round, letting me be brash and bold with tactics.

Also, I have the alternate sculpt, which just looks fabulous.  It needs to be painted up, though.

Ok, back to unit choices.  UAs and WAs are allowed, so Stormblades come to mind, but at 15pts, 8 would be required to plop down the unit + UA, since they really, really need the Assault to function properly.  Plus, I’d like to give them Arcane Shield, some Stormgunners, and perhaps Tough from Rhupert, but…  Well, they just need too much support for this format.

Sword Knights, though, would be great.  I will undoubtedly have a jack or two, so their Flank [Faction Warjack] will get some use, and they’re cheap – 4 pts for six dudes.  They love reach ‘jacks because of Flank, and Stryker likes a Lancer for arcing Earthquake and shuffling buffs, so that’s a nice match.

Long Gunners would also work well.  I wouldn’t have considered them, but I recently watched a Battle Report that had them in a 25 pt army, and they filled a nice role.  They’re considerably more expensive, at a point a piece, but with Snipe, they could easily out-range anything on the board.  They can take out the enemy tar pit, or CRA into harder targets.  Coupling a few ranged focused ‘jacks and solo with them could be a very nice start to a gunline.

Overall, I think the 15pt size of the army requires it to be specialized.  I have to pour everything into melee or ranged – I can’t afford to try and be balanced.   So, I need an all melee or all ranged army.  Luckily, Stryker can play both those games.

Melee List 1

Commander Coleman Stryker (*6pts)
* Lancer (6pts)
* Centurion (9pts)
Sword Knights (Leader and 5 Grunts)(4pts)
Captain Arlan Strangeways (2pts)

This list has two ‘jacks with reach, and loads of armor.  The Centurion is ARM 21 with it’s shield, and a whopping 29 under Arcane Shield and Stryker’s feat.  The six Sword Knights shouldn’t have trouble finding targets that let them utilize their Flank ability.  Strangeways’ Power Booster won’t really be necessary, but his spray attack, Evasive ability and Repair skill will all be very useful in keeping the ‘jacks alive long enough to close the distance.

Melee List 2

Commander Coleman Stryker (*6pts)
* Firefly (5pts)
* Centurion (9pts)
Sword Knights (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
Stormsmith Stormcaller (1pts)

Still two ‘jacks for reach, but four more Sword Knights this time.  The Firefly helps the Stormsmith solo drop lines, and offers some added anti-infantry with Electro-Leap on the gun.  While more interesting, I feel this list is really only string against Warmachine, since the Disruption effects are lost on Hordes models.

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Ranged List 1

Commander Coleman Stryker (*6pts)
* Sentinel (4pts)
* Defender (9pts)
* Squire (2pts)
Long Gunner Infantry (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)

This list forms a decent start to a gunline.  The Sentinel protects Stryker from enemy shots, and can cut loose up to 6 shots of its own.  The Long Gunners can aide in taking out infantry with solo or 2-man CRAs, or assist the Defender in taking out harder targets.  The Squire helps Stryker manage his upkeeps and feed focus to the ‘jacks, lets him spread out more with 2″ added to his Control Area, and lets him re-roll missed spell attacks when he lets lose with that occassional Earthquake.  The only problem is that there’s nothing to help defend the Long Gunners, so they’ll be dependent on terrain for cover / concealment, since they can’t benefit from Snipe and Blur / Arcane Shield.

Ranged List 2

Commander Coleman Stryker (*6pts)
* Charger (4pts)
* Hunter (6pts)
* Sentinel (4pts)
Long Gunner Infantry (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator (1pts)

This list doesn’t stand a chance against a heavily tanked force, but it has enough vectors that if I can land an Earthquake, it would be game over.

Something else entirely…

I could also do something completely different:

Baldur the Stonecleaver (*6pts)
* Woldwatcher (5pts)
* Woldwarden (9pts)
Stoneward and 5 Woldstalkers (5pts)
Druid Wilder (2pts)

or maybe…

Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight (*5pts)
* Harrier (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Carnivean (11pts)
Blighted Nyss Legionnaires (Leader and 5 Grunts) (4pts)

or…  or…